Hey Native,

know what you mean :

"So I made the mistake of calling WAS just to talk. We used to talk so much, so easily."

Me too. Now I don't feel my W is being Dis respectful but now when I call her it's like "ya what do you want I'm Busy" now she does not say that but that is how I feel. However when one of her GF call she can talk for an hour about nothing.

Keep the faith buddy. I have been knocking at the "I give up door" many times. Then something happens and I give it a little more time.
I think everytime I have pushed a little bit farther twards divorce. Wife seems to get a little more closer and open. But I know that she is not ready and if I did push for a divorce she would give me one.

take it one day at a time. giving up is like that last cookie in the jar. As long as you don't eat it you can have it anytime. But once you do eat it... It's gone

Doc


And if I claim to be a wise man, well
It surely means that I don't know