Hi WCW, I don't think I can make any references about this to her. I'm pretty sure she feels, that the reason she feels numb, is because of me. I'm pretty sure she doesn't understand why I am hanging in here when she feels there are no feelings left. As long as there has been no pressure, we're fine. I really think part of the reason she isn't wearing her ring is to demonstrate her separation from the marriage. (Severing the ties I guess) We still talk but, I think she believes time will take care of this sitch. (normal talk, not R talk) She doesn't show any reponse to the R. Avoidance is a better word. She is focused on the kids, her work, and exercising (treadmill walking). I've been trying to see what stage of MLC she might be in, I'm not that knowledgeable to determine it. I have been trying to reestablish myself by doing some small things at home. Other than helping around the house with chores, I set out her travel mug for coffee in the morning, and have started to kiss her goodbye (just a peck). I thought maybe this might show something. We'll see. Other than that, everyone I have talked with, family /friends, don't understand why this is happening. It is a bomb to everyone, she is keeping it to herself.