I thank you for your replies, bnd, yes I supposed in a way I do still give ex head space but not as much as I used to , and in a way I dont give him that much at all, just like to post on here now and again as an update to myself and so my post doesnt get lost. Braveheart, my son knows that I havent stopped his father in any way shape or form from seeing him or talking to him in fact he knows i have done the opposite to no avail, I have tried getting son to see his dad and I also offered my hand of friendship to his father to see if that would ease the problem of them not communicating, it didnt get accepted by ex so as it goes it is still stale mate for the two of them, but I do agree ex is the loser in all this, and he will reap what he as sown