startingover2 it's late for me - will read through your stuff this weekend and get back to you. I know the need to hear from others on the subject. Long subject. Never any real answers just living one day at time and finding a way to live with it. Haven't figured that out. Don't think too many people have either. But this place is different. We will talk. Stay strong and take care of yourself and the kids. It's so important.