Hi Saffie, I have been reading your posts on "that thread", I tried many times to no avail, at first I got the nice replies but then it all went south. So well done for trying and it was also encouraging to me that someone else thought the same as me! I was beginning to think I was the only one. Maybe 25 will have better luck although true to form I have no expectations. I also worry about the views on dating-she doesn't, just knows and falls head over heels, hmmm didn't I read a book that says something about if a thing isn't working try something else. Ah well just wanted to thank you for making me feel a little more normal and not a total b***h.