How do you know when it's time to give up

[pauld2100]

Thanks for being supportive!
I like to think it's not to late myself, I love her more then she knows. Maybe loving her too much is the problem. I am making changes but she even when she if she can see changes she doesn’t pay much attention to them, also not being around she wouldn’t notice anyway. Since we have been through this before she thinks its temporary and or that I am doing it so I can just get back with her. So the focus is always on my changing and she sets aside herself. She admits she has fault also and a few days after I left she said she would work on them and that was a good day. My eagerness to get back home pushed her in another direction. So it's like I'm backing off at the wrong time and now with OM in the mix... I can't believe it's too late, I am watching her force herself to believe it is. Not sure what to do she has all the cards.... I do have DB but not DR books. I have to say the way she talks when I do hear from her is creepy its like she is someone else that I never knew... people here have been saying I don’t look attractive and need to show her that I am the better alternative to the OM and I understand this they are right but with NC and her distance makes me wonder how I could be that plus the OM, she focusing more on that then anything else. From what I hear it’s not all that great but she still puts her attention there. Guess I have to see if she will wake up, but as open about her dating this guy and the way she talks is amazing. One person here Puppy is right about how things are I have hit with many 2x4’s and know my mistakes. Just wish there way a way to get her attention back…