H4H, I've not posted to you before, but your last statement really struck home with me. Perhaps that is what we are all doing, the LBS's as much as the WAS's who seem to hang on (each in their own way). Perhaps we are all letting our marriages die a slow, if not peaceful death. Perhaps for the majority of us, it is just too painful and impossible to let it all go right away, but instead, it has to be done in stages. Maybe it is even harder for the WAS to completely let go than it is for the LBS? I surely don't know but I've read a lot of your posts and you remind me so much of me and I am sorry for the pain you are in. Even when we are feeling like we don't want them anymore, it still hurts something terrible.