she will also mention regularly that because we've been fighting so long and have experienced failure so long, how could she ever believe we could be different and have a successful, happy marriage? Again, how do you answer that? Do you just agree so that you don't turn it into an argument? Plus it's bad to talk about the relationship even if she starts to talk about it because no matter how neutral you try to remain, she keeps knocking the relationship down so much, you feel you need to do something to defend it or yourself.