Simply put, we have never tried this, and our of respect for him, our marriage and myself I am willing to give it one last try. I could just walk away, and then I wouldn't truly know if I had tried everything.
Sounds like your as confused as us 'j' Cinco and I pull out our hair here, don't worry. We actually have the same questions as you. But for us, ( and pardon me Cinco for speaking for us ) but we have both decided that BEFORE we walk, and before we end it we will give it a last attempt. Your right, we pretty much have been given the answers here. We are just hoping by taking different approaches ( whatever they are for both of us ) that it might open a door. If not, we are prepared to walk out of that door.