Lovey

As a matter of fact, I did buy Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus. But she was too far gone as a WAW, and I have since bought most of the R tapes.

I did not buy the tapes till she said she was considering leaving, and I did benefit from them. She listen to the Mars/Venus tape, but it was only a start, and she was already an WAW alien.

In fact we did not start counseling till she left. It was non SBT and was useless.
She did not know or attempt to find resources beyond her experience and her friends to save our marriage.

Had she had your experience I believe we could have survived.

As a side note, she left me at the 5 year mark, we were bored with each other, we went to counseling and got back together.

Though we did resolve that current problem, she always had a low self esteem. And this would crop up every now and then as some outside source would build her up and then she would fail at it or they would fail her and it would take months for her to regain her confidence.

Her father died when she was 12, and I figure she married me as a father figure. In fact she ask me to marry her. Well in her present job, she finally gain the self confidence she was looking for.

And the dynamics change, and I did not realize it. As I tended to be the dominate partner.
She became dissatisfied and I was clueless most of the time.

So to answer your question, I did buy and listen to a tape, but I had too little information too late.

The funny thing is I have become the person my XW wanted me to be. My current LF is as verse as me on this R stuff, and we have avoided a lot of conflict.

XW is still in full alien mode so life goes on.

my email is catmantle@hotmail.com I can get you the audios cheap.


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