I think that is the wall you are up against Roger. Do you want her to be your wife or just a friend? Make that choice and then act accordingly. If you want her as a friend keep going as you are, if you want her as your wife...cut it out!
Karen is getting strong isn't she? More and more times she is calling it as she sees it and isn't presenting it with question marks. I am so proud of her.
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Me-53(and learning!) S24, S21, D18, D17 Just keep swimming, Just keep swimming. Dory