Hey K... yes, I do get it, and I didnt mean the facts are important, I more meant..would there be any other way to get him to snap out of the pretence, to own up to you so that you can have a real conversation about it? Stop all this nonsense of him denying it? As I guess there is no way this is going anywhere until he can be honest with you.

Thats all I meant, whether trying again with some proof would make him climb down off of his indignant "I didnt have an A!" perch. I had often wished I HAD told my ex that I had snooped and seen the calls to Helen on his mobile.. all those times he kept saying "why do you keep asking about her!?? I am not interested in her, I have nothing to do with her".. but I knew he was lying. At the time I was too afraid to tell him I had snooped in case he left me! Ha. Not that it would have made any difference to the outcome.. but at least I wouldnt have spent months feeling like maybe he was right and I was just imagining it (clearly, I wasnt).

I know you want him to just be able to grow up, man up and TALK to you though. He isnt being very fair, or maybe he is just being weak/immature. I dont know anymore.

It is unnaceptable that he continues to not try and restore your trust though, after what he did. I agree with John, he is no doubt in the reported 'mourning' period for OW, which may or may not mean he was or is in love with her, but perhaps IS mourning the loss of it nonetheless. Sorry he contimues to undermine you,

Love Al xxx