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(((Karen))) and H4H

You are both correct. Must get on that.

Just journalling - W was trying a new approach tonite. She was expecting a call from a friend (male) - not om. So she is saying out loud to d16 "Oh I was supposed to call friend wasn't I? Did he think you were me again? Ha ha ha".

Now she's trying to get me this way! Sheesh.


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How incredibly inappropriate.

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Immature games. She wants to hurt you in whatever way she can.

Thinking.......when you talk to her, Lis, are you talking condescendingly? Or, are you talking to her in an emotionless way? I'm trying to think of a way for her to stop baring her teeth around you and the kids in the house. Can you think of a way to respond to her that WON'T antagonize her? At least until you get into a family therapist, which you need to do ASAP, even it if is HERS.

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Originally Posted By: lost_in_space
So she is saying out loud to d16 "Oh I was supposed to call friend wasn't I? Did he think you were me again? Ha ha ha".


My reply would have been a snicker and an "As if..."

About the C. Do they see her C altogether or do the K's see the C without her present? She may be "controlling" the sessions. You need to set up an appt. for the k's with a C that is ONLY for the K's and is independent of either you or W. It doesn't matter what she does or doesn't LIKE. This is about your k's mental health and well being which is so OBVIOUSLY not her priority. Its time to "fish or cut bait..."

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(((Wdid))).

I am fairly emotionless when she speaks, especially around the kids. I am really trying to remain calm. I do not talk (or at least try to not) condescendingly to her. I had been guilty of that in the past. Now it appears to be my lack of emotion that sets her off. Hell, it may just be a particular cloud in the sky these days that sets her off - who knows.

(((S+S)))

They have only seen the C once. I will call right away about the independent C that was recommended. This MUST stop. I have been advised by my C, my physician and my L that W had no doubt controlled how the kids meeting with her C went.


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Originally Posted By: lost_in_space

I am fairly emotionless when she speaks, especially around the kids. I am really trying to remain calm. I do not talk (or at least try to not) condescendingly to her. I had been guilty of that in the past. Now it appears to be my lack of emotion that sets her off.



Yeah, my wife hated that too. Said I sounded like a "robot," and she DETESTED it. I'm thinking she was lucky I was remaining calm, and not going off on her!!! But yeah, she hated the whole "Joe Friday" thing. \:\/

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UPDATE

Heard from a reliable source that W has rented a house! Oh what fun! Not sure how she is doing this... $$ wise


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Heard from a reliable source that W has rented a house! Oh what fun! Not sure how she is doing this... $$ wise


That is probably for the best right now. Let her go ahead and move out. I would NOT let her take the k's. A good healthy dose of REALITY is just what she needs.

Have you heard from OMW lately? Any possibility that he is the funding source?


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(((S&S)))

You are right. She can go. It is for the best. She will try to take the k's - I know that. That will not be pretty.


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I have been advised by my C, my physician and my L that W had no doubt controlled how the kids meeting with her C went.
She is a totally controlling person so I feel sure this is true. LIS, I know it's upsetting, but her getting a house could be a blessing in disguise for you and the kids. I think if you have a decent L, you should be able to get primary custody of the children. She has some emotional issues, that don't sound like they would be good for the kids. I would def. get involved in the kids' therapy right now, as involved as you can possibly get. My H is always kind of distant but even he talked to the kids' therapist once or twice when they started going. I'm thinking this would be good for your kids' sake and legally too maybe...

Your wife is toxic to you, and it sounds like to the kids lately too. If she wants to move out, I think you should try to be happy about that, & just don't let her have the kids too much. Although maybe she is better when you are not there, or worse, geez that's a scary thought!!! Sorry... Karen


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