Must I return to earth .....turbulence smurbulence

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now sandy on the other hand followed the scenario.

but no mention of prayers from either.

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good thing ......."my buddy" read your minds on the prayers and is already well entrenched in them. Matter of fact I think this is sometimes his ocassional prayer time.

I am sure they were implied in all that you passed along to me ..to give to "my buddy" ...right??


Ha ha


T

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Oh sure, just rub it in !!! LOL

I'm delighted that you two share that. I have another friend that has an amazing physical connection with her H. I'm envious of her as well.

I wonder if one day, maybe, perhaps, I'll be beyond my demons of the past to have intense passionate connection with my H ?

Super cookie girl

If my darling was able to be "re-programmed " to be as open and intimate in our R as she has been from the beginning, then so can you!

Dream big girl. And be praying too as I will be fro that to come true for ya.


T

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tell your friend I say "oops" to have left out the scenario...got a little carried away on the response lol

and of course prayer is always an answer!! I did mention God and the bible did I not?

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hey ..look who I nearly caught red handed

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I will pass that on to ..euaaaa ha..."my friend"

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the judges are still debating on the mention of God and the bible.

It is not looking good ..but debate continues. LOL

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Thanks for checking on me, I posted on my thread and could really use some "men's" point of view on manly thinkings.

yeah, aparently we were cross posting as you left this one I was hard at work giving you my male pov on your's.

Well, in catching up on your situation, I am as confused as ever. You know we have discussed briefly this "attraction" thing before. I don't know if that is much of reason for maintaining a marriage but I know if that's one obstacle you don't face it's a plus. I really enjoy that time with my H and always have. But then, all my GF's have always thought I was weird or different and I never could understand why they didn't "feel like it".

While our bedroom chemistry and desires for each other have seemed to have been the rock that we can count on to get us through when so many other things are going oh so wrong with us. It is not the only time that we are able to enjoy each other's company. It is an enjoyment that for now surpasses all the other non-bedroom time but we can smile and have laughter with each other. And it has long been known that the surest way for us to end any fight dead in its tracks is to simply look into each other's eyes. We can both be stubborn donkeys and will refuse to do the eye contact when that is what oughta happen every time. Works like a charm. She can't stay mad at me and I can't with her.

Have you tried "refusing" that part with her. If so, what happened? If not, why not try the 180?

This is an interesting one and a real testament to doing 180's.
Cuz about a month or two ago I boycotted the ML for nearly a month (seemed like an eternity for us ..I am blessed )

And get this ...her remark to me was, "Your choosing not to have sex with me for the time was the smartest thing you could have done, I think cuz it drew me back to you and a real strong way."

Guess i got one right?!

Peace & prayers!


T

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Well T, God will forgive me for that blunder, can you?

It's my southern charm girl that led me to not mention your "friends" issues.

Maybe you should revisit the 180 again by withholding.

I am curious... do you think there is anything going on with her and her ex? I don't know if you've mentioned that before.

His Peace be with you today,

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Well T, God will forgive me for that blunder, can you?

Yeah, I was partly having fun with ya. But I also wanted to place a real strong emphasis on prayer. Prayer is afterall our connecting medium to our Lord and Savior. It seems to me, nothing is more important than that ...nothing stands a chance of surpassing what can be gained by praying and thereby being connected with our Lord. Prayer is how you get real with the Lord and vice/versa.

I kinda blundered myself when I earlier stated that the physical chemistry is what kept me and my darling together in the midst of some horrible times with everything else. As I just thought of it now in answering your post and thinking over what you said, I would be much more correct to say that being on my knees in prayer is what has been much more of a factor in the ongoing restoration of our M and for getting us through some most troubling times/events. Because as I step back and consider what is really true, a life with out continual and regular prayer as a Christian is analogous to turning off the oxygen in the world you live in. Soon enough you will perish ...to the ways of the world. As much as us guys and perhaps some women (fortunately for me ..I believe I found one) will claim that they can't do without sex, it is not something that can not be lived with out. Feels almost like it to me ..lol ..but the reality of it is to me that if someone told me that I would be prohibited from one or the other. It is a pretty simple choice for me.

I am a praying man. And I want that to define me more or less. The Lord deserves that from me for all that He has given me day in and day out.

Oh geez ....somebody find me a monastery ...what have I done.

I always held in my mind that if I had not become a (good for nothing)pilot that I would have very strongly considered getting into ministry. They say it is never too late in life for anything ....

It's my southern charm girl that led me to not mention your "friends" issues.

I was a little thrown off by this. I presume you mean that you "played the game" (if indeed it is a game ..lol) because of the fact that you are a girl from south of the Mason-Dixon line and you were raised and taught to excercise proper Southern tact and ettiquette. IDK. Am I anywhere near close?

Maybe you should revisit the 180 again by withholding.

You really are trying to have me sent to a monastery. Heck no!
Stepping out of the comedy routine for a sec (my version of it anyway) ....It would seem to not be necessary to resort to that at the present time as we are on a good track at present. No sense fixin what doesn't seem to be busted. More breakdowns could very well be right around the corner ..or maybe not. Pray, pray, pray !!! The Lord only knows how bad both her & I wan this to work. And she has said as much directly to me and has shown it more importantly by her actions. The Lord knows that I want it to work because he hears that from me constantly and in no uncertain terms. I am patiently waiting for my darling to grow into a R with Christ so that she will be taking her petitions to her Lord and Savior directly and feel comfortable doing so. When we were talking/loving (that's a hybrid form of talking and "other stuff" that I think is of female origins and I would venture to guess is very mirage-like to guys other than just me..lol, but not really) ....she revealed to me that she considers me to be the one designated to take things up with God in prayer and that she trusts me to handle that role. I tried to respond by not showing much displeasure with holding a role like that, which is pretty much an honor and also showed that trust is being rebuilt. But I subtly let her know that I thought it was real important that she be prayerful and that she needs to have her own personal R with our Lord. She has been a Catholic for the last 9 years or so and IMO some of the lack of a personal R with Jesus is at least partially associated with some practices and teaching of the catechism. In the grand scheme of things, I believe that the Catholic church is no more or no less of a fine place of fellowship and worship to our God than probably any other church. Their church has inherent stumbling blocks that are tied to the size of the organization and right along with that ...$$$$. A camel passing through the eye of a needle comes to mind ...

I am curious... do you think there is anything going on with her and her ex? I don't know if you've mentioned that before.

It would seem you are more curious than I ! I have mentioned it in passing before. At various stages I sort of let my non-jealous personality be dragged down that road. Probably with the Devil pushing me right along. I doubt very many guys would go along with the arrangement of their sorta --estranged wife--> (that is a funny one :)) taking up shelter at her ex's place for an indefinite period of time whilst we are doing renovations on our M. What can I say ...I am a little different than many folks . That and I believe that the Lord is guiding our ship through it all. I need to trust and obey in Him. Pray, pray, pray!!!

His Peace be with you today,

Muchos gracias senorita ...one of my many sisters in Christ. I will try to harness that peace or just let it sweep over me. Hopefully I won't mess it up ..seeking my own way !


Peace and prayers for all those who need or wish them. Be one with Christ. He saves!