you know, every person is different. my friend and I go back and forth with the whole boobjob thing. she's pretty much as flat as me, maybe moreso, but she's also skinnier and taller than me. As christians, we both feel that we should be happy with what God has given us, but when she's going to a church where ALL the women our age are doing it, women that are twice or 3x as big as us already, kinda makes us feel like...well...crappy.

now, I will never say I won't ever do it, although at this moment in time, even though I would like to, (one because my H loves them big \:\( and to look normal ) I know that God did not make my body just so that I would look at it and say, "hmm God, you didn't make this right, so I'm gonna fix it".

now, sometimes we go thru experiences that leave us feeling less than beautiful. less than ugly even sometimes. and some of us may even come into this world with cosmetic problems, but where do we draw the line? ex., at a cleft lip, at breast cancer, at crooked nose, vericose veins, unwanted hair, large hips, whatever. I don't know that any of us can really answer that question. There were no surgeries during Jesus' time. I do think that it is possibly based on the individual. For instance when Paul talks about being able to eat whatever...but if eating this unclean thing causes his brother to fall, then he will not eat it. So I think perhaps it should apply the same way.

I also believe that people should not rely on looks to make themselves happy. It is really God that we need to look to for our happiness, and if we need surgery to make ourselves happy, then we'll always find something else wrong with ourselves to have surgery for and make us happy again.

But, I do understand how somethings, for a woman, can really cause turmoil emotionally.

If she really has this many scars, and all these things that have changed her body from when she was younger, than this is very important to her.

I think that if you are very set in not helping her financially, you need to make that decision. It's not your obligation to do it anyways, unless you owed her money. at this moment, you are not a M couple...although under the eyes of God... but SHE is not being your wife, so IMHO you do not have this obligation.

however, you should be very compassionate and supportive. perhaps saying something like..

"W, I never realized how strongly you felt about this and how important it is to you. What is difficult for me, is that I think God made you perfect. I've always thought you are extremely beautiful and I believe you are beautiful inside and outside. I believe that happiness lies within and with God, and this is why I find it difficult to be okay with loaning this money."

I'm not even sure that this would be good either. I don't know that anything you say will not make her mad. But you can't buy her love either, and she also needs to see that too.

What would be the 180 for you? saying yes or saying no. (in regards with paying for what she wants ?)


Me 33 H 34 S9 S3
M 6 yrs (2gether 11 yrs)
EA/PA 1/2006
DB 5/2006
H wants D 6/2006
H wants ME 8/2006
H "said" PA/EA over 8/2006
H erased OW off phone! 2/2007

"It is far better 2 choose humility & change oneself, than 2 wait in vain trying 2 chang someone else."