Thanks for the encourgement, I really needed it. I lost it again this weekend. I made a very poor decision on Saturday night; my W and I were watching a movie together at home and afterwards I decided to tell her that I really wanted her as my W and I wanted us to fix things between us. It turned into a huge argument, with her saying the usual "I don't want you, I don't want this marriage, I don't want to live in this house." I ended up telling her to just file and move out then. I mean I don't get it; if she wants out so bad then why not just do it? Anyhow, she's making plans to move out and for now I am making plans to move forward with my life. I hope (and sort of believe)we will come back together some day, but for now I just can't go on in this much unhappiness. I think a separation really needs to happen for both of us to see things more clearly. And as for the respect factor, I think you are absolutely right. We really need to hold our heads up high and stop being door mats. It's like the whole situation is just upside down! I'll check on your thread to see how things have been for you. I hope you have a great week. WP
