I'm trying to figure out at what point you decide that you are just wasting your time. I had a really fun New Year's Eve w/my W, just as friends of course, but nonetheless a lot of fun. So this morning I'm laying in bed and I can hear her talking about her plans to move back out in September (she just moved back in yesterday) once our daughter starts free public school and she can afford her own place and car. She told her friend that she doesn't ever see us together again. Yesterday she was asking me about taking a trip to Cancun together this year, and when I was looking up potential dates she asked why I hadn't looked for times around our anniversary. I didn't reply. Is she confused or just manipulative? I just don't want to waste the next 9 months of my life on someone who could give a sh*t about me or our marriage. She still talks to the OM who it is very clear she at the very least had an EA with. What the hell do I do?? Do I keep trying these DB techniques like doing 180s, acting as if, always being happy, etc., and hope that the next 9 months can work in my favor or do I just put an end to this now? I just really am beginning to feel like I am wasting my time, and I know that I deserve better than that. WP