2008 = Crazy Year (Havin Fun @ 21?)

[lost_in_space]

Update for today. Family back in same house except D11 who is at IL's. 5 minutes I walked in, was ambushed...

W: kids (D16 and S13) come here please. Need to have a family discussion about living arrangements. We cannot have all 5 of us living under smae roof. Lost, what do you propose?

Me: well W, a little unprepared for this. SOrry but I have been preparing a response to your papers...

W: oh well you are late - had 30 days after filing to respond.

Me: no W, actually it is 30 days after serving, but whatever.

W: well what do you propose?

Me: W, what do you want to do? This is your decision.

Anyway, rather than the whole convo, here are the highlights (remember D16 and S13 are there):

* W called me a f"g azzhole and a SOB

* W wants to have her share of house now - needs it

* K's know of affair - but not sure yet what they know. Need to find that out. W called it a symptom.

* W wants someone who loves her, wants to be with her, wants her

* W made mistake and k's forgive her but I obv cannot and want to portray her as a sl*t (I responded that I never said any such thing and I cold forgive her).

* W wants to get an apartment and share time in house (we alternate in apartment).

* W asked kids of they want to live full time with me (no) or her (no)

* W said 50/50 time to which I said "gee that is funny cuz that is not what your papers said." Got into what was filed a bit.

* W playing nicey nice with k's

Anyway all along S13 is crying - doesn't want to be there. I tell him he can go and tell W this is between her and I. She says it is a "family decision" so he needs to be there and she tries to get him to uncover his eyes (hands over)by saying "look at me bud" - he says no continuously. D16 is saying "I don't care" to any question asked. They just want cr@p to be over.

I tell W throughout that this is her decision so the consequence is she should leave; I get the "you are just thinking of self, not kids". Also get more of the controlling manipulative stuff in response. Told W that she has helped to destroy 2 families; she then said I shouldn't have contacted omw.

Anyway, nothing decided and she wants to discuss further. I am firm - SHE NEEDS TO LEAVE. Thoughts?

After I had a one-on-one with D16. She was pretty distrught and cried hard (she didn't cry around W) - I encouraged D16 to cry, she needed to. We talked a bit about some stuff I had done and why (primarily $$). Talked a bit about the A - not much. I mentioned to her how I was comitted to my family but mom can make her own decisions and we may simply have to accept that. D16 said what family - you want this? I said no, of course not, I want it better. I mentioned that we knew we had stuff to work on last year but then the other guy came along - I agreed the A was a symptom but you had to deal with the symptom before you could cure the disease. I also mentioned that despite what is happening, I love her mom very much and would like nothing better to have pur family come through this.

I need to have another disc with D16 and S13 to see what they in fact do know. I will simply ask them that with the caveat that anything I say is not to paint W as a villain / bad person. Just want to get the truth out there so we all know it.

I must say it is looking bleaker and bleaker for this to work out...