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Hey Mike, whoo hoo, I'm included in the trifecta. Hugs

I'm reading along too, & what am education I'm getting about how guys relate to each other. ;\)

you said....... and it appears all on here are either out of the ordinary, exceptional..or crazy..

Just remember......appearances can be so deceiving.

& out of curiosity which do I "appear" to be ? out of the ordinary, exceptional or batchitt crazy ?? LOL Cause today I feel crazy.

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Hey Mike, whoo hoo, I'm included in the trifecta. Hugs

I'm reading along too, & what am education I'm getting about how guys relate to each other. ;\)

you said....... and it appears all on here are either out of the ordinary, exceptional..or crazy..

Just remember......appearances can be so deceiving.

& out of curiosity which do I "appear" to be ? out of the ordinary, exceptional or batchitt crazy ?? LOL Cause today I feel crazy.

Have a good one.


Yep..you're in the trifecta..I shoulda bought lottery tickets..

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I'm reading along too, & what am education I'm getting about how guys relate to each other. ;\)


I'm sure you are..see most guys can go at each other like Ian and I do..we can banter back and forth..take little jabs..Ian knows i love and appreciate his insight and advice..I feel Ian is like family to me and I have never even met him..he "came" to me right off the bat and has listened to my whining and cryin for almost a year now...with women it is a different..the guys here can't go at a woman like Ian and I go at each other..the ladies are different and we would not be very nice men if we took little pot shots at them..

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you said....... and it appears all on here are either out of the ordinary, exceptional..or crazy..


99.9% of the women on here are exceptional, extraordinary women...for sure..they have had to put up with some of the worst excuses for DAMS in the history of the world and have come looking to making themselves better and are finding they can survive no matter what..they have all taught me a thing or two about women along the way and for that I am greatful...

.1% that is left..I'm sorry if you reading this..you are batchitt crazy and are well aware of that fact..and you know who you are..

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& out of curiosity which do I "appear" to be ? out of the ordinary, exceptional or batchitt crazy ?? LOL Cause today I feel crazy.


I think your an exceptional woman..you were an almost WAW who came on here and helped lots of guys understand exactly what a WAW feels, wants and needs...

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I get that..we are all entitled to that occasionally..

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Mike, buddy, your honesty overwhelms me. Never have I heard a man speak his mind as plainly as you do. I must say that I appreciate hearing your POV more than you will ever know.

Yes, there are plenty of batchitt crazy women out there. Of course, there are plenty of DAM's as well so it just evens things out. Hmmmmm......I just had an interesting thought. Now, stay with me here. We should create our own dating website with a personality test a la eharmony or the like but set it up to only match batchitt crazy with DAM's!!!! Hmmm....what could we call it? Any suggestions? That would take those options off the table for the rest of us and leave only the "normal" options.

I know that you know I'm being totally sarcastic here but as a disclaimer I thought I should add that. TOTALLY SARCASTIC! NOT BATCHITT CRAZY!!!

Mike, I hope you have a wonderful new year full of all the promise of tomorrow.


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Mike, buddy, your honesty overwhelms me. Never have I heard a man speak his mind as plainly as you do.


I figure somebody asks me a question and they want an honest answer then I'll give them what they ask for. I'm not gonna put on a big show. I've been straight up and honest the whole time I've been here..told more on myself and my sitch than I've told to my own dear mother/family/friends.

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I must say that I appreciate hearing your POV more than you will ever know.


I hope that all appreciate some part of this...

I figured I might get a little flak on my .1% figure..but like I said..they know who they are, they are well aware they are crazy. Their actions/words show it.

There are some very smart, beautiful, independant, amazing women on this site who have helped me make an attempt to figure women out, make myself a better person and bestow tools on me I can use in any future R's I have...and for that I am extremely grateful..

That very small .1%...thank you too for searing the image of batchitt crazy in my brain. I'm much more likely to finally figure out how to avoid the "type" in any future R I may have....and for that I am extremely greatful.

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Yes, there are plenty of batchitt crazy women out there. Of course, there are plenty of DAM's as well so it just evens things out.


I agree..I don't know that it's ever evened out..I think it's proven daily that batchitt crazy may just win out over DAMness on a daily basis..The men here have proven that Dam's can be cured...batchitt crazy..well it's a FEVER..there's no cure for that FEVER...except maybe ala SNL and Christopher Walken's ""more cow bell" skit...sorry..that was a lame attempt at humor

No cure for Batchitt..all you can do is duck and run..

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That would take those options off the table for the rest of us and leave only the "normal" options.


and with that quote I could get back inot the normal/abnormal debate/discussion...but I won't.

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I know that you know I'm being totally sarcastic here but as a disclaimer I thought I should add that. TOTALLY SARCASTIC! NOT BATCHITT CRAZY!!!


never thought you were batchitt, you're a 99.9% girl...If I see signs your going the other way I'll let you know

New Year has to be better than the last..same to you and thanks for the Xmas card..and kind words..U R DA Bomb..

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and while wading through all the negative..just a little positive pop of sunshine..

Kim and I have a little simblence of co-parenting going on..I think...

Of course I always keep my back to the wall and my crotch protected when dealing with her but I'll say that over the last few days..a couple of times by phone and a few times by email..her anger level is way down it appears..and we seem to actaully be moving on...She now knows for sure..beyond a shadow of a doubt that i have been dating..and she even knows who it is..see....another little twist...

at one time MHS38 did Kim's hair...and she actually fixed Kim's hair for our wedding \:o that sounds almost as bad as it looks in print doesn't it?? we were all married at the time...but I'm sure Kim now wonders..which is fine..Kim stopped going to MHS38 years ago..

oh the irony of it all..

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I love irony...

After my D is final; I plan on having a party out here at my place in the woods..

I'm going to invite a few of my W's former co-workers who have admitted they knew she was full of batchitt..again I love irony.

Glad to see you're doing better.

Happy New Year, Mike!!!

I need to get down there one weekend.


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After my D is final; I plan on having a party out here at my place in the woods..

I'm going to invite a few of my W's former co-workers who have admitted they knew she was full of batchitt..again I love irony.


you get down here?? Sounds like I need toget up there..to that party and those co-workers..hopefully, who are mostly female..

same to yuo man..Happy new Year.

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All female former co-workers bro...I'm not looking to host a weenie roast!!


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and the date of this party is when??

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