Guys, you are missing the point of WHAT I am saying here. I am not putting anyone down for attempting to reunite with a WAS/MLCer, quite the contrary. I tried it, almost everyone on here has. What I am saying is, its a very tough thing to do and the odds are long against it. If you wish to try, or and are trying I wish you all the best and I sincerely hope you are one of the ones who are successful in your quest. I think I have a reputation on here for being kind of cold hearted and matter of fact. I can assure you that is not the case with me, in fact I hate it that everyone has had to go through this. Its tough beyond belief, what I hope to accomplish is to inform those going through this about what they face. I am sorry if that information offends some people, but it is in fact the truth. With all of that being said, I do try to assist people going through this, and with my experience the very best policy is to detach totally. This is something many people are not willing to do, what I mean by that is no contact period! Anything less than that will be taken as pursuit, controlling by the WAS. MLCers also love to try to reel you back into thier dramas, string you along, give you false hope, etc. One of the biggest mistakes in this is that people think they are making progress, but are not and it encourages them to pursuit harder, resulting in them running faster. Anyway, sorry if what I say is offensive, but I feel that I am truthful in my statements. Jack, sorry you think that bluntness is blowing sunshine up someone's ass, but I feel that if you are blunt and honest, there isn't much wiggle room, meaning that someone might not like it, but you can't be accused of lying or misleading. I sincerely do wish everyone the very best of luck in thier quest.