If I Could Be Like That

[ernest88]

Aw hell you drew cornfed out of the closet.......

between you and me I was hoping that he could not remember his password...damn the moderators

Look dude, I am not loading my guns nor counting my ammo.

how about chomping at the bit then?

I want you to simply think about what it is you are saying. Normal.... who exactly gets to define this?

I would think that we/you/I do in our own reality..hence my frustration..my version of normal may not exist and that frustrates the hell out of me.

You see, I think what you and I have in common is that our expectations of normalcy are based on a great deal of time spent here getting ourselves back to normal.

and that is the deal right there..are we actaully getting ourselves back to normal in an abnormal world??

Do we just settle? if we can't find our perception of what normal should be?

Let me use Kim as an example..ya know when you first meet you see certain things that may be an issue but you assume that with both people working together for love then all can be overcome in this fairy tale bullchitt euphoria we all fall into..anyway..I saw Kim's attachement to her mom's tit and thought that may not be NORMAL... but me being the kind of guy I am..nice guy, upstanding, understanding, do the right thing..I can get by that lip to nipple attachment and just deal with things and all will be well and happy forever and ever and ever..so in a sense..I settled...I thought I had the best thing going even though I saw that attachement...so with that said..if I'm looking for my perception of normal and can't seem to find it am I destined to just settle?? Again?? and start this viscious cycle all over again..

or just lock myself up in the house and be content??

I think that what you need to be thinking about is finding someone who handles themselves well when the insanity kicks in.

and that may not exist...hence my "outburst" on John's thread..

and Ian..I know the lighten up thing..I know I'm negative as hell right now..and you know this is my way of trying to get into ME and what I need to do to be better.....

I could be doing this another way. I could be taking this out on someone else..I bring this crap here so you "lucky" boys and girls can listen to me piss, bitch and moan...

I know you all are thankful for that.

[sofaraway]

how about chomping at the bit then?

Hell yes... exactly......

I would think that we/you/I do in our own reality..hence my frustration..my version of normal may not exist and that frustrates the hell out of me.

Problem with that is you and I are dumbasses and coming of of a heartbreak so our vision of normal is all wacked out. Your vision of normal right now is probably a little overprotective due to not wanting to be let down again.....

and that is the deal right there..are we actaully getting ourselves back to normal in an abnormal world??

Do we just settle? if we can't find our perception of what normal should be?

No Mr. Negative... our perceptions are clearing up as we progress and you know that. Your idea of normal will be much different in 2 weeks, 1 month, 3 months, etc....

We don't settle, we change our standards as we let down our guard a bit and we find a healthy level of insanity that we can cope with. Mike, let me ask you something.... Is MHS38 abnormal or is her situation a little to close to home for ya?

or just lock myself up in the house and be content??

I wasn't even gonna dignify this with a response but I have to... shut the hell up.......

and Ian..I know the lighten up thing..I know I'm negative as hell right now..and you know this is my way of trying to get into ME and what I need to do to be better.....

I understand that Mike, and you darn tootin better understand that because this is a safe place to "vent" your frustrations does not mean that I am gonna sit here and coddle you, pat your belly, and stick a tit in yoru mouth for you to feel all warm and fuzzy. You can be mr frowny face all you want and many others here will validate you to make you feel better, I am not gonna do that. You know I empathize with you and understand you are just in a funk, but I am not into sitting by and watching my friends hurt just because they have their head so far up their own asss they can't reach their own ears to pull themselves out.... not my style.....


Love ya buddy....


Ian

[ernest88]

Mike, let me ask you something.... Is MHS38 abnormal or is her situation a little to close to home for ya?

you're gonna have to clarify this..what do you mean "close to home for me" as in..same sitch with Kim?? I don't know what you mean by that.

MHS38 is normal compared to what I've met and dated..so by my reality of Normal and if my version of normal is correct then MHS38 is abnormal...hell their all abnomal..their all crazy..with the exception of the ones on here..and it appears all on here are either out of the ordinary, exceptional..or crazy..

I wasn't even gonna dignify this with a response but I have to... shut the hell up.......

telling me to shut the hell up is about like telling you to shut the hell up...I will as soon as I work through this..and I fully intend to do that..cause it's chompin at my ass at the moment..

I am gonna sit here and coddle you, pat your belly, and stick a tit in yoru mouth for you to feel all warm and fuzzy.

but I am not into sitting by and watching my friends hurt just because they have their head so far up their own asss they can't reach their own ears to pull themselves out

never expected it..hence my comment guns out and countin the ammo comment..

u r such a dic...I love ya, mean it..I would not want you to be any other way.

[sofaraway]

you're gonna have to clarify this..what do you mean "close to home for me" as in..same sitch with Kim?? I don't know what you mean by that.

What I mean by that is that the drama attached to her touched someone other than you and her. He called your ex and that adds a whole new level of insanity. Thing is that had nothing to do with MHS38, that was all on the douchebag......

telling me to shut the hell up is about like telling you to shut the hell up...I will as soon as I work through this..and I fully intend to do that..cause it's chompin at my ass at the moment..

Let me clarify, I was not telling you to shut the hell up completely, just the one liner that prompted this response.... I'm just gonna sit in my house and date Rosy Palmer so I never get hurt....wah wah wah..... Let me tell you something buddy, you do that long enough and you get blisters, and they do end up hurting you... so even in your home all is not perfect and normal......

u r such a dic...I love ya, mean it..

Rather be a dic than a big ole pussy.....

Love ya to buddy.....

Ian

[ernest88]

What I mean by that is that the drama attached to her touched someone other than you and her. He called your ex and that adds a whole new level of insanity. Thing is that had nothing to do with MHS38, that was all on the douchebag......

I got ya now brother...nope the phone call thing never bothered me..because he knows NOT to do that again and has not done that again..because if he does to either me..or attempts to harress where Caleigh is then I will be coming and hell will be coming with me..I will not stop..and you can bet on that and probably even listen to it on your nightly news. I'm sure you know how it is when a daughter is screwed with..

Actually..that deal has been very quite..quite as a church mouse from all involved..

Thing is that had nothing to do with MHS38

and I have never attached that to her.

Some of my aingst with all this comes from the inability of people to handle things that should just be handled and put to the side....the drama attached to most people(since we determined earlier that most people have that drama when we meet them) just sort of drags around behind them and it's not handled..I'm finding the same thing or eerily similiar in all I meet..and that frustrates me..

so I "see" this, know I can't fix it...then make a choice..do I sit back, observe, hope it's taken care of?...do I run? do I just cut my losses, move on to the next one with the same exact issues..

you see why I get frustrated? That's why I get attitude.

I'm just gonna sit in my house and date Rosy Palmer so I never get hurt....wah wah wah..... Let me tell you something buddy, you do that long enough and you get blisters, and they do end up hurting you...

sounds like experience talking there..

Rather be a dic than a big ole pussy.....

ohhh I know I'm being a pussy..I have no doubt about that at the moment..no doubt at all.

[Reincarnated]

it appears all on here are either out of the ordinary, exceptional..or crazy..

Ooh, ooh, which one am I? huh? huh? Now, be honest!!

I didn't know what had happened....I think now I get where some of your current negativity came from. Are you concerned about HS38 because she knowingly opened a gateway of drama between her X and yours? Is she still unconsciously attached to her X, and you don't want to deal with future drama?

I bet you were pissed, and don't know where to direct that emotion. Ian asks a good question - did she play a part in this drama, or just make a mistake in letting her X know about you, not realizing that he would be that unstable and inappropriate as to get into your business?

That sitch does sound like a clusterf.... but we really can't control everything to guarantee a perfect world. Yes, do what you can to stack the cards in your favor, but isn't what you would be missing worth the risk of being out there, connected with someone?

Is she worth it?

[Reincarnated]

crap - I missed the whole point!

Well, at least some of what I posted might relate...

[ernest88]

Ooh, ooh, which one am I? huh? huh? Now, be honest!!

I thought we already determined what you were?? extra exceptional, extrodinary..correct and maybe a little abnormal due to the artist factor...

you know I think your an awesome woman Donna..helll all the woman here are awesome..

Are you concerned about HS38 because she knowingly opened a gateway of drama between her X and yours?

there is an ex-BF/stalker wanna be bad boy who has not given up..she did not open a gateway of drama..lets say he dis some investigative work and found Kim's phone number..placing a phone call and chatting..

Is she still unconsciously attached to her X

that is a hard question for me to answer..I'll say she has not taken care of the problem in a way that i think the problem should be taken care of. Sometimes those problems just won't go away. They just don't tend to dissapear by themselves.

I bet you were pissed, and don't know where to direct that emotion

I'm not gonna classify myself as pissed..because honestly I'm not..I'm more upset that their seems to be an issue in dealing with the problem..

it's not my problem to deal with unless of course it is brought to me by him..which I'm sure it won't be..I happened to get a call also..and he knows where I am..he has been informed of the consiquences of his actions if he decides to persue any type harressment with me or Caleigh...and Kim since Kim has Caleigh..
it won't be pleasent, it will be all out..it will be full bore..

did she play a part in this drama, or just make a mistake in letting her X know about you, not realizing that he would be that unstable and inappropriate as to get into your business?

nope don't think she played a part in the original phone call...don't think she made any mistakes..I think she did not fully realize exactly what he was and is finding out pretty quick..

That sitch does sound like a clusterf....

it could be...that's why I'm doing what I'm doing..sitting back, wondering, waiting..looking at myself..

but isn't what you would be missing worth the risk of being out there, connected with someone?

Trying to figure that out..

Is she worth it?

I can't answer that honestly..it's way to early to even contemplate that..

I guess the question is, "are they worthy of me"? I know that sounds self centered, egotistical and all that..but chitt women I meet don't seem to want the "nice guy"...they seem to love the abuser..bad boy types...

[BobbiJo]

Just following along Mike, I don't have any pearls of wisdom so I have just been 'listening in'........

You will get this figured out, you are a 'thinker' from what i have read so I know you will get it all sorted out eventually.

[ernest88]

Just following along Mike, I don't have any pearls of wisdom so I have just been 'listening in'........

You will get this figured out, you are a 'thinker' from what i have read so I know you will get it all sorted out eventually.

thanks BBJ and to be honest with you if I was reading along here on my thread..I think I might just run..

the crap I get into..