Man oh man!! I love these posts! You two men are going great! Now remember that I was an AWAW, so just wanted you to realize who this is coming from.......you have to be the one that is relaxed. You have to be the one that feels free. You have to be the one that has the peace. If you have none of these.....then you are her prisoner......or let's put it a different way....you are a prisoner to the stitch! As I see it, you are learning fast about that principle. When you get to the place that you are detached enough that you can be almost nonchalant about what she does and at times even be "sweet"....okay, then "nice" to her and it doesn't bother you how she receives your actions.....then you have really reached a new level. Of course, I still maintain that you don't allow her to walk on you, disrespect you, etc. You don't have to show your behind by setting her straight about that, either. Men can talk soft and yet firm/stern to a woman and she knows when he means business. So, don't take any crap off of her. That isn't what I mean by being nonchalant about what she does. I think you understand where I coming from.
When you get where Amy and Tawnya (a couple of my Sweeties, BTW) are in your detaching.....then you will see how much easier everything else will follow. That is not to say that there won't be other problems to arise or difficult days to deal with, but I think from what I have read that the detachment must be the hardest part to master.
So, keep up the good work men. Don't let the WAW's get you down. And, this is JMHO, but SingleDad, I think if she is with OM, I wouldn't be concerned about inviting her to anymore family events or get-togethers. When a woman can't behave herself properly like a lady should....then she doesn't deserve to be invited to anything by the H.
Oh, and about the children. Oh.....they can be real treasures. They can also be "instruments" that can cut like a knife to the guilty party and be ever so innocent in what they say. That is what hurts the guilty person......they know it comes from the mouths of babes and they speak the truth. Of course, the WAS is not going to tell you what the child said b/c it would be telling off on themselves. But, I truly believe that God uses children to speak to adults many times. Now take that in the context in which it was given.....
I'll check on you all tomorrow.
Sandi
It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!
You two men are going great! Now remember that I was an AWAW, so just wanted you to realize who this is coming from.......you have to be the one that is relaxed. You have to be the one that feels free. You have to be the one that has the peace. If you have none of these.....then you are her prisoner......or let's put it a different way....you are a prisoner to the stitch! As I see it, you are learning fast about that principle. When you get to the place that you are detached enough that you can be almost nonchalant about what she does and at times even be "sweet"....okay, then "nice" to her and it doesn't bother you how she receives your actions.....then you have really reached a new level. Of course, I still maintain that you don't allow her to walk on you, disrespect you, etc. You don't have to show your behind by setting her straight about that, either. Men can talk soft and yet firm/stern to a woman and she knows when he means business. So, don't take any crap off of her. That isn't what I mean by being nonchalant about what she does. I think you understand where I coming from. 
