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... I thought he said, "I dont see the point in going on" ? I'm not sure it IS that serious, as when people are determinedly suicidal, they often get to the point they dont say anything at all, in case someone stops them.

No, you cant rescue, or save him, but he has been voicing these thoughts quite a bit?

..he needs to get help and WANT to get help.. doctors, ADs, but also someone to say "I hear you". Just my humble opinion! I have known suicidal people (including my ex), so I dont like to diminish someones suffering, or assume they dont mean it, when they atart saying chitt like this, as M would say.

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ps..sorry I didnt mean you were angry, I meant, people are cross for you as I am sure they are in RL, and who can blame them? Noone wants to see you keep getting hurt. I'd just say trust your instincts.. you know Dan best, if you think he may mean what he says, then, act appropriately, if not, then, let him wallow. x

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I think you should just flat out ask him if he is thinking seriously about commiting suicide. If it seems he is, call 1-800-273-8255 at the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

It might not be a bad idea to make the use of the 22 rifle less convenient right now.

He is dragging you down in his misery. Dont let him do this to you.

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This is a tough one. If you really think he might hurt himself, maybe you could call a C or a suicide prevention line for advice on what you should do. Otherwise, I think he is playing you, consciously or not. He knows that you have always put his well being above yours, and he is trying to get things back in order.

That's all I've got.... wish it was more helpful!

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Great minds think alike....I just got off the phone with the hotline. They said to ask him more pointedly if he actually has a plan in place or if he is just feeling low....if he has some concrete plans they said to call them back. Also said to hide the .22 except I don't know where it is...

She said if he does have concrete plans and tells me via text or email or some other 'provable' means I could ultimately have him committed but we aren't at that point yet...


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I know I'm a cold heartless bastard, but I think he is playing you. There is an angle somewhere here. People don't do 180s like this without a reason.



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Looks like there were a lot of minds thinking alike! I think you did the right thing.

As far as his motivation for all of a sudden wanting to work on things, I agree with Woog, he is just playing you to get what he wants (which isn't you). But that's a seperate issue from the "I can't go on" talk.

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Originally Posted By: Wooglint

I know I'm a cold heartless bastard, but I think he is playing you. There is an angle somewhere here. People don't do 180s like this without a reason.



hell I don't want Woog to be by himself so I'll be a cold heartless bastard too ...Dan is playing a game..

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I have been following along and have very little experience with this type of behaviour / talk. If Dan is playing a game, he may just be even worse than we think. Maybe he is broken beyond repair....
Keep an eye on him and hang in there BBJ.

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I think he is playing with you. You didnt react the way he thought you would and now he is using what he thinks will work...
Dan doesnt seem to be the type of guy that would seriously think of suicide. I maybe wrong but I think he is manipulating you...
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