The secrets thing is horrible. H and I have always told the kids they should never keep secrets from mom and dad. I mean that's really basic. Not a good idea. And the lying thing about just a friend. My H has done that too. I know S15 told me he knows it's a lie and D9 has called OW Daddy's new wife or girlfriend. So I don't think they're buying. He's just sending a really, really bad message and role model for his kids. B/c of that I really am anxious to kind of D my H. Their behavior is bad enough when they hurt us, but hurting the kids like that is unforgivable. Karen
