Ah yes,the showdown actually went rather well. STBX was in her "lets ignore the whole thing" frame of mind. I insisted that the three of us sit down and discuss the phone issue options, which we did. STBX did get in a couple of unecessary shots at D14 but on the whole it went well. Afterwards she said to me "I know that yelling and screaming does not help and probably makes things worse, but I'm just so exhausted from work and I've got bills..." I empathized, what else can you do. I knew that was what she was gonna say anyway! We then all went out together to do some Christmas shopping. D14 came in my car because she said "I don't want to be with that woman". We actally had a nice talk during the car ride and I just let D14 blow off steam without correcting, sticking up for mom etc. By the time we arrived at the mall D14 was a happy little camper again. We all had a nice and pleasant afternoon together. I then left to go meet my woman friend and her kids as we planned to catch a movie and dinner together. So I dodged the bullet on that one, Spitfire! Thanks for checking in.