Well, had a long convo with BFF.. we cant believe how people behave, how they treat one another. She made me realise that ex had moaned (about 10 people in our convo (never me), including 3 BMFs, his Mum and brother.

I did post the long convo.. then lost the post! Anyway...When he told me "and someone else" was going, he also said, I'm sorry.. I'm sorry, I dont mean to upset you.. or usual apologies.. I said I didnt expect him to say that, how silly, but I was shocked (that was becuase he had made out he's alone).

I asked him about Helen.. I said "I guess its going well for you then?" He aaid, I dont know.. I dont know.. (sounding fed up)...I repeated, you dont know? He said, I dunno..I dont know..and then...I just feel a bit wierd talking to you about it...(sounding embarressed and guilty).

He said "I dont know what I'm doing.. I'm just going along with it".

He said he was sorry he hadnt called before and why...I said it would be good to see him after he got back, but I understand thats probably difficult for him and he said, "no, to be honest, I dont know what I am doing, I just havent thought about it at all"... that he didnt want to think about it, he couldnt be *rsed to think about it, that he didnt feel christmassy...

He went on, I dont really know what I am doing.. all I know is I am moving to that house.. and talked alot about this shared house he is moving into with 2 guys in January, he's going to see how it goes he said, no tenancy with them.. and then said, thats all I know, thats all I know I am doing...

I thanked him for letting me know about going away with her and said I hoped he had a good time...he said he had to go pack and I said...well, I've leave that one with you then (when we would be in contact again).

..he's taking her away for a week.. ok with brother he doesnt get on with and SIL he hates and there will be stresses and bickering. Whether that means him and Helen have an awful time, or a good time..I'm not likely to find out. I didnt feel like I was DBing him, I said whatever came to mind, like asking about her.

Not sure why he said he found it difficult to talk to me about her...but, maybe thats only natural.