Hi Rob... thank you so much for being honest and sharing all that! I feel for you, and it was helpful. My ex does have self hatred, he has told me himself and feels he is worthless, as recently as a month ago he said he was nothing. He really needs to get more help! I guess perhaps he didnt feel worthy of my love, seems perverse though, doesnt it? My therapist said its textbook though, shes seen it time and time again.

Like you, I had alot of issues that left my body, with the shock of him ending it. So we were lucky, we fastracked and skipped 3 years of therapy! I do want to be his friend, but looks less likely by the day.

Hey Silver, nice to see you back..your H also seems to have chosen an innapropriate woman? Why do they do that !?? Affair down I think they call it? Thanks for posting..it all helps!