2008 = Crazy Year (Twisted 20)

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Mof3,
Your comment has me confused. Looks like you may be seeing something I (and many others) are not. Certainly would appreciate hearing your thoughts on that.

Update:

Hawaii OUT. W decided tonight she wanted to go. K's were asked - they did not want to go at end of day (except D11). So trip is off. Instead, I will take k's to vacation property after Christmas for a few days, then W will come down and S13 and I will come home for hockey. K's came up with this idea.

In the family meeting, W said "you guys know your dad and I are getting a D". W said that I wouldn't let her sell the house and she cannot get a mortgage without her share of the house and a job and she is not going on welfare. I asked her to stop any accusations. W said that "your dad and I both feel..." at which I stopped her and said please, speak of your feelings and I can speak of mine. W got pissed and said "all I was going to say was that we both love you all and want this to be easy."

W said she cannot move out with the k's and I said W that is your choice. She said again she needs somewhere for her and the k's - I said "excuse me". She said she gets k's 50% of time and got pissy. I never disagreed with her - but if she wants out she can leave until things are settled. Hated for the k's to hear that. She did stop and say this is an adult conv and k's don't need to be involved. She is right... about D11, but S13 and D16 get a say in what they want to do.

She then asks if she can talk to the K's by herself. This is when they came up with the vacation property travel idea.

Then I had a chance to talk to the k's by myself. Encouraged them to open up, say whatever is on their minds. The C they saw once (W's C) said that W and I wanted different things - that hadn't changed. Said I wished I could snap my fingers and make things right. D16 asked what I meant. I said right for our family. D16 said this isn't fun - I said I agreed and understood. I said that when there is major problems in a R, there are two ends: split things or work on things - that is what C meant and that tells you what I would like. I said this sucks and encouraged them to talk it out and express their feelings. Also said it is ok to cry - even I had.

W then came in and wondered why k's looked more upset than when she talked to them. Because the k's were honest with their feelings and I was honest with them? For example, D11 was crying and W was comforting her saying its all ok, don't worry. I did say that life would go on and things would be ok, but would be different and encouraged the k's to feel their emotions - seems like W wants to protray a nothing but happy picture. YUCK.

Anyway, ho ho ho...