I had the same feeling, CEO told your H that unless he moves fast, he is going to ...seduce you. And he threatened him to shut up and not tell you anything about it unless he wanted to have his head smashed like a pumpkin...
Lisa, I respect you for your attitude and patience. BUT, life is too short and CEOs like yours dont come around often. I cant wait till New Years Eve comes and you settle that "issue" and then go ahead and have CEO spoil you and love you and take care of you and sweep you off your feet... If you would only give him the green light... K
We had a nice time, although it was tough to remember that I love him while I was thinking about CEOs place.
((((Lisa mou)))), what a lovely update! I'd give anything to be able to overhear CEO talking to H... It's a bit like watching a movie and then there is one of the most interesting moments and all of a sudden the sound is gone...
I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders ____________________________________________________ M 46 H 45 D 17 M/T 23 Bomb #1 (ILYBNILWY) 12.06 Bomb #2 (OW) 12.07 Bomb #3 (chose OW over M) 9.08
I read all the time, always love your thread, just don't post much.
Really curious about what your next steps will be. Are you going to wait until one of them makes a proper move?
It does sound as though your H may be coming around. On that conversation with H and CEO, I don't CEO but I wouldn't think he would be so forward as to actually say something directly about you to H. My guess is that there was a more innocent conversation, but one where it was clear that the subtext was actually you. Perhaps the CEO made some reference to you being at his house, or to something about spending time with you that generally just made your H flustered. Could you just ask CEO maybe?
Anyway really looking forward to more updates :).
ITH
Me:34 H:36 M:5 years T: 8 years Bomb: 07/17/08 I want to be separated for 6 months--I don't know what I want the outcome to be S 07/28/08-11/08/08 Living together ~7 months D Possibly busted?!?!!!
WOW! I'm so blown away to come back and see so many positive responses! THANK YOU!! I'll try and respond to each of you in turn, and will then post the update from yesterday.
Essie- when I told H about respecting his decision his response was......nothing! He just looked at me and didn't say anything, or even nod. I think either he didn't hear me (although that's unlikely- he'd heard everything else I'd said all evening), or he didn't know what to say and was surprised. It's probably guilt and he may not believe me. And I wish CEO would show his hand too!
Ali- I agree that if the purple thing knew we walked around holding hands she's have a fit of some kind. It's really odd, and I've never heard of anything like walking around town with your ex hand in hand from any of my friends. H is still confused, obviously, but I was surprised (and pleased) he wasn't taking her home for Xmas. I didn't quite manage to squeeze out a mention of her name. I called her his GF, but was proud of myself for managing to say it naturally and as though it didn't make me feel ill. I don't know if he's toying with me, or something is really changing. I have a feeling he suspects I'm moving on and that that's changing his opinion. And also that it was convenient to see me because of the conference. Let's see what happens next week.....
Lovely- H's tone when he said 'maybe not tonight' was maybe a little playful. I can't quite remember- I'd had too much to drink, which is always a bad idea when you have to give a DB update! CEO's cupboards were gorgeous, and he had his clothes in his wardrobe arranged in colour order. I do that too.... it's like I'm being tortured with little details of myself reflected in another person.
Purr, Handsome- it's so interesting to get a man's take on the intercepting and conversation thing! I spoke to CEO about that yesterday- see the next update (I'm such a tease!).
Purr- thankyou for saying that I deserve a man who steps up and not these two men who can't quite commit to a course of action. it's so frustrating. I hope Christmas gives them some food for thought though.....(maybe H will wake on Xmas morning and come to a realisation that he was crazy to leave!). That would be such a great present!
Handsome- you'd have to be Bingley, for sure, or an American Darcy. Or are you more like Newland Archer from the Age of Innocence, with me your Ellen? So romantic.....
Sunshine- how do I give CEO the green light? I'm being friendly and warm, I compliment him and laugh at his jokes. Do you think I should be more bold? I'd just like him to ask me out if he wants to.... help!
Stellitsa-mou- me too!! See update in my next post.....
Michelle- how are you? I've missed you. I agree that there's lots of good contact with H, but wish it would lead somewhere concrete soon (if it's going to). And YAY on him not taking the purple thing home- either it's cooled, or MIL has forbidden an OW from being there. I hope it's the former.
ITH- Hi! I'm glad you enjoy my thread. There's always a bit of gossip here, I guess! Update on H and CEO in my next post. I think my next steps will be to see how things go with H over the next few weeks. I need him for a while, in any case. And to tell CEO he should take me out for some Xmas drinks and see how that goes.....
Wow. I can't beleive what's been happening. It sounds like CEO is very interested yet can't pluck up the courage to ask you out. I also agree that he owes you more then cups of tea for saving him big time, maybe you should suggest to him what would be an appropriate gesture of appreciation? I'm sure there are many options.....
(((Samina)))) Missed your post in there. Thankyou for visiting! I think that if CEO keeps me on in a company of me and him it'd be a good enough thankyou for giving his talk. That or a Christmas drink or two- this week will be interesting.....
So, there was no contact from H yesterday- he had his Xmas party all day, so I didn't expect to hear from him in any case. I sent him an e-mail thanking him for his help on Thursday night and telling him a bit about my day/weekend plans. On Thursday I also said I'd text him to let him know what I thought of a program we both watch, so I'll do that tomorrow.
CEO and I went out for lunch yesterday (we were the only two in the office). He told me about everything that had led up to his having to give everyone notice of redundancy, and what was going on with the funding and so on. I was pretty shocked to hear it, and tried to validate him and make the right kinds of noises to approve of what he'd done. I do think he's actually done the only thing he could do.
He then asked who I was interviewing with and we talked about the lack of jobs suitable for me. He said he'd help me if he could, and said I shouldn't not apply to jobs out of a sense of loyalty. I said I wasn't. He also mentioned the possibility of spinning a small company out of the current one, but that it would just be me and him working for it. That'd keep me going financially for a bit longer, so we'll see.....We talked about his career and what he might do next. He said he likes being a CEO but has no idea if he's good at it, so I validated that.
After that we discussed the house a bit. I told him I'd felt like Lizzie in Darcy's house. He's a bookworm so if he thinks about it he'll realise it's an allusion to being attracted to someone and seeing them as if for the first time. He asked if I liked the bath, and I said I really did but that I'd be worried about sinking into it. He said you can get booster seats and that he'd thought of that before when he'd had a small girlfriend.
As we walked back to the office we had this conversation (this is quite long, but had a couple of interesting elements, more for my own journalling)....
CEO: I thought your H seemed like he wouldn;t be strong enough for you ME: Oh, well, he used to do a good job of keeping me in check. I need someone who can control me and not let me always get my own way, or I can't respect them CEO: Yes, exactly. I just thought he was a bit wimpy and not good enough for you. ME: Oh, he wasn't before. he's having a hard time right now. He used to look like Matthew McConaughey before he lost so much weight. CEO: (laughs) No way! He just seemed a bit wet. Not like the kind of person you should be with ME: Well, you can be a bit intimidating.... (smiling) CEO: not to everyone, like that other guy who thought we were stupid ME: That's because we're too good-looking and people think gorgeous people are a bit dim (I was joking- I don't really think this, BTW!) CEO: (laughs) The thing to do is never to smile. Then everyone respects you ME: (laughing) Is that why you never smile then? CEO: (laughs). What did your H want? ME: well, we're friends. I think he senses that I'm moving on and it's making him reconsider his position CEO: Are you moving on then? Are you going on a date? ME: Yes, moving on. But no- I only date people who I feel a real spark with CEO: OK, so if you could pick one famous or Hollywood person for a night of passion who would you pick? ME: Ummmmm (struggling). Can they be dead? (CEO says yes). In that case, I'd pick Julius Caesar CEO: But you don't know what he looked like and he's not from Hollywood ME: But he was a genius- he was a seducer of women, a master of language, warfare and politics, and an athlete. CEO: No, no, you're too hung up on personality. If it was just for one night of passion and purely based on their body who would you choose? Arnold Schwarzenegger? He's big. ME: No! He's too old. Ummmm, (at this point CEO starts naming people I don't know)......Brad Pitt? Although he's a bit girly looking CEO: My Mum thinks Brad Pitt looks like a girl ME: Yeah.... I usually prefer a drk-haired man in any case. Oh, what about Mel Gibson? CEO: He's too short. I've met him and he's only about 5ft 10. ME: Oh, that is too short. I like a dark-haired man over 6ft tall. I've never been out with anyone shorter than that. (CEO starts searching the internet for Hollywood stars over 6 ft tall) CEO: How about Matthew McConaughey? ME: Clever- very good! No- probably not. Daniel Craig maybe CEO: He's too short aswell though- even shorter than Mel Gibson ME: Gosh, well, I guess if he happens to walk into the office I'll just have to tell him that he can't have me because he's not tall enough and pass him on to (rich girl).
Then I walked away. CEO laughed and seemed pleased by the answer, and then we got on with our work.
Later in the day I told him he should take me out for a Christmas drink as we both missed the party. He didn't commit to a day/time so we'll see what happens. He also told me it was his nephews' birthday this weekend, so I bought a card for him to pass on (that's not as wierd as it sounds- I've met his nephew a couple of times and we have a good time when we have. He's 10).
So, CEO will think of me on Sunday, and I'll text H to remind him of me too (I said I would on Thursday). It's like a wierd merry-go-round of people thinking about each other and not doing anything about it.
*sigh* Anyway, I thought CEO's opinion of H was interesting. H thinks CEO looks old and is like a caricature of a man, so I guess they're even. The conversation they had must have been a mixture of sizing each other up and discussing me in a roundabout way by talking about the conference/my talk. Men are so complicated!!
Why the heck didnt you tell CEO someone like him would do it for you?!!! Especially with that kitchen and bathroom!! And why didnt you tell him that one of you is enough to work. That you could take a couple of years off to raise your twins? Hmmm, he was trying to find out if you are willing to date now, I really agree with him as far as your H is concerned, GOD I feel this guy would make you ecstatically happy...
Sorry My Lady, I should keep my mouth shut...
On your H, it just struck me after reading your interactions. He will not move until he is forced to. Seriously. You will wait for years and he will not do a single thing. Out of guilt towards you and the purple, because he is a gutless jerk, because he has all he wants, because he cant let you go, you choose why, it doesnt matter. He will not move... K/S
Wow. I have to say, I too agreed with CEO. I'm sorry, but even with the way things are with my ex now, if I told him what you told your H.. the miscarriage (sorry to bring that up!).. he would have said, sorry, probably "Oh AL!" but he would've asked if I was ok and been upset for me. I was always shocked your H said ... nothing. Even being apart, theres no excuse for that (and its not as if you dont talk). Also, he dates someone for 18 months, yet walk around hand in hand with you.. which isnt fair to you, or the aub, is it.
So.. I have to agree with Kalni. Also, CEO sounds like an amazing catch and that he would love and respect you and worship at your feet.. and give you babies, and build a company with you and let you have all the things you deserve! Plus, he is older (?) so he is unlikely now to go through an MLC!!!! Your H has all taht in front on him you know, as he is still only 29....So what is it thats stopping you ?? I'm curious!
So for the no-MLC reason alone, I vote CEO. Sorry, we are naughty on your thread!
Al xxx
Me:40! H:37 Together: 12yrs IDLY & left 11/07 ADs 03/08 OW 8/08 Reconciled 05/09 now married! my thread
