so, to elaborate.

Please 2x4 me if you think I'm wrong here too as I kinda feel like I'm a bit like an OM and maybe me being on the scene is clouding this girls judgement.

So, the above happened and we then had a few texts back and forth. Then suddenly she panicked and said she had been feeling rubbish since the chat earlier as what I was saying was making sense, that it's definately over and she is going to move things forward in the new year. She, he mum and dad and kids have gone away for the weekend, so she said she will speak to them this weekend about her sitch etc. Said she knows I'm right and it's definately over, has taken her 2 years to get this far (ex moving out and excepting it's over). Said she got scared that I wouldn't even speak to her again etc and that she would hate that. I explained I would not blank her, but I wouldn't expect the texts etc as they are to continue as pointless. I Said, please don't do anything for me or anyone else, you gotta do what is write for you and your kids. Divorce is chit and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, so would say if it's possible, try and work it out with ex. However, if that's not the case, it's 100% definately over, you've got to start moving on. Your wasting your life away and all to keep other people happy. Stuff along those lines.

Don't know where this will go, seems a rough start if anything but will see in the new year when (if) we meet up. I've been totally honest, I'm being totally me, have said a few blunt things (and I didn't even remember meeting her the first time 2 months ago as had a vodka blank out night) and she still wants to know. She seems real nice and I guess what will be will be.

Might be going for drink with STBXBFfriend34 Friday....just keeping lots of friends on the go

2x4's or any advice welcome....

Told ya Mike I need that BCD ASAP