2008 = Crazy Year (Twisted 20)

[Puppy Dog Tails]

Just to add a smile to the craziness: My ex while we were still married said he wasn't having an affair because it wasn't a secret anymore! Where do they find this stuff??

Response:

"Oh, I'm sorry! My bad; you're right. I should have called it 'adultery' instead."

[Sugar and Spice]

would I want to take k's to hawaii by myself and she would then have them meet her at the vac property after?

I would just tell her that Hawaii is off the table and if chooses to take the k's to the vacation property it will be solely on her dime and only if there is some sort of agreement in place prior to...ie: no OM there, length of stay, etc...

- I was really ignorant for not telling her S13 received hockey tryout invite. (I did call her on this, saying that an A is ignorant to me and family - her response was that it wasn't really an A because you have to be a R with someone to have an A and she isn't so I should just get over it.)

So it wasn't a R with OM, it was indiscriminite sex with a stanger? Oh, thats SO MUCH BETTER!

She said I should stop thinking of myself and think of k's. I can't communicate - how do I ever think I will get in another R?

How is this her concern? Shes worried about your getting into another R? Now I know shes on the pipe.

She needs to know about hawaii soon because people need to know. I asked who and she said people. So I asked who again and she said I do and that is all that counts. I said I will give it some thought to which she said I don't have time to do that to which I said I will take the time to think about it.

Hawaii trip? Asked and answered. Lets move on. Apparently you need to speak slowly and use smaller words, try: We...Will...Not...Be...Going...To...Hawaii!

She then said sex life started going downhill 6 years ago and she was worried then but nothing done and no communication about it so that is why getting D now.

Is she a mime? A deaf/mute perhaps? Getting involved with OM doesn't really count as an effective "communication" technique...but hey, what do I know.

Sorry, but your W frustrates me sooooo much sometimes...like everytime she opens her mouth.

You are a good man and are doing so well, I really admire your self restraint!

[Tawnya]

{{Sugar}} OK..I about fell on the floor with the "now I know your wife is on the pipe" comment..LOL..thank you for that!

It sure sounds like she is still trying to spin Hawaii..you know tho, I know we are all like "why is she still talking about that, isn't it off the table"?? BUTTT..we are dealing with fog and a WAS that obviously isn't thinking straight..she must still want her "cake" a vacation of some kind, is still throwing the kids in the mix as the "guilt" to LIS and doesn't want to hear that something she did is making the trip be cancelled..

Why are we surprised eh?

{{{LIS}}}} I hate that your day was throw in a loop

Tawnya

[lost_in_space]

(((S&S)))

Thanks. She has (not that I'm trying to defend her) in the past said she is not happy. When asked why or what we should do, no real answer. As for the A comment, she meant that since she wasn't in a R with me, it wasn't an A.

(((Tawnya)))

Thank you. It was a great morning that went south in a hurry.

Nut, PDT, (((kat)))

Thanks for the comments. I don't know how much clearer I could have been, although she did throw me for a loop with the idea of separate trips...

[Puppy Dog Tails]

Lost,

Why not plan something nearby, inexpensive, but some sense of fun/adventure for you and the kids, instead? Like a CAMPING trip!!!! Plan it, announce it, tell your wife she is free to come if she wants to (she won't), and create some memories for you and your children.

Although I've spent thousands of dollars on vacations and presents for my kids over the years, my S12's greatest memories are still eating chocolate cake and "that good milk" at a deli during a baseball tournament, or camping with my siblings and parents up in TN.

Puppy

[Tawnya]

{{{LIS}}} I hate that my friend..how are you NOW?? Can you do something fun/happy today to make your day better? Or do I have to call FTD or something and send you a balloon-o-gram?

Tawnya

[lost_in_space]

(((Tawnya))) - you are a sweetheart. FTD not needed - you did a good job right there!

PDT
Good thought. Will have to think on that one. But camping in 20 below weather - I am too much of a wimp for that.

[Puppy Dog Tails]

So do a cabin. State parks often have them VERY affordable, although they book further in advance. I'm sure if you use your imagination, you are SO in tune with your kids, that you could come up with something they'd enjoy.

[carpenter54]

I say let's send Randy a stripper!!

[Tawnya]

{{Carp}} you WOULD say that..LOL!

{{LIS}} I'm with you on the wimpyness camping in the cold..BRR no thank you..you know..roughing it at Disney or something..now..ok

Let us know if you come up with any fun alternatives for the kids and yourself to do! I think PDT is really onto a great idea!

Tawnya