"Could you loose the anger, hurt, bitterness, and frustration you are feeling. Could you respond to W with kindness when she is obviously being mean to you. Could you respond to her without sarcasm, when she's being nice for her own gain. Can you accept her current situation and remain friendly. These are you issues and the things you need to deal with." Good advice Lan IF it works. In some cases showing the W you need her by trying to be "friends" will cause her to dig her heals in some more or see thru' the acting "as-if" or think that he finally is making it easier for me to D. In Kerry's case when he clearly dumped W for G40 she wanted back - taking that train trip to 'think' and months of Kerry's "strength and honor" did squat. I'd say staying calm and detaching from the drama and acting "as if" you don't give a FU&? may be the first step. And *actually* not giving a FU&? is probably the best solution to this problem. While T may have some "issues" most of these WAW don't have the desire to stay married regardless of the "work" put in on their behalf.