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Kitti -- h is 36. He'll be going part time (ha! Have you looked at a law school schedule? Part time is like full time with 1 class missing!). It'll take 4 years...slightly less if he goes during the summer.

hmmm, so realistically he wont start "lawyering" until 40? kewlness!!! i might have hubby look into this

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Your sitch reminds me a lot (!!!) of mine. I have a feeling we'll be seeing you over in Piecing in the not too distant future!

oh gosh, i hope your right sage, you would know eh? if you see the similarities and you can see hope, well then, i am gonna add that to my pma bank and HOLD IT!!!

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I made the decision early on to forgive my husband but it hasn't been a black and white process...I find that forgiving him (and frankly, myself) has been an ongoing thing...I'll strip away layers of resentment and anger and plateau and coast for a while...and then something will happen that will result in an unforgiving thought popping up in my head and I'll realize that I still have a ways to go....

ok, in my sitch, i SHOCKED myself when i told my H the day he dropped the bomb that "we could work this out" - in essense i was telling him "i can forgive you" - but i didn't realize at the time that i gave him NO hope to assume that was even true based on earlier experiences. now, i really feel i am on the road to forgiveness mainly because i don't feel that ACHE whenever i think about the sitch. i just ALWAYS am thinking about how i can make our R better. how i can SHOW him that i know i have contributed to the pain he had and how i am CHANGING for the better. every once in a while i think about them "doing it" or something - and i get this knot in my stomach, but i have learned how to apply the STOP sign and not focus on it.

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does that make sense?

by all means yes

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It IS funny that this should come up now because JUST this morning I realized that I am able to view h. as a wonderful man who did a not wonderful thing. This actually felt like a big thing to me.

it is quite funny, because in all the research i have done about this, it seems that you just wake up one morning with PEACE about the situation and then you know forgiveness has taken place. maybe you are there???

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As for what h knows or doesn't...I have told him a couple of times that I did not think that the a. was unforgivable...that I thought our m. could survive it. I don't know if I've actually said "I've forgiven you".

that is what i needed to know. my next question is then - do you think he knows???

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My h and I don't actually talk much about our R. The few R talks we've had since the bomb have been poorly timed and have actually caused some backsliding. I think we're still very much in the "strengthening" phase...eventually I think (and hope) that we'll figure out positive ways to talk about stuff but I don't think we'll ever be big talkers as far as the r. goes.

all the more reason i should just keep my mouth SHUT - and let the positives KEEP happening and bide my time - maybe we will NEVER talk about our R but maybe we don't need to either

thanks so much sage for insight and taking the time to answer questions

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now sage, i sit here and i am in tears about your family sitch. that was so unkind of your folks to involve you and your siblings in the uglyness of divorce. that is one of the FOREMOST reasons i hang on, i don't want the kids to suffer. i will sacrafice ANYTHING for my kids. my folks were divorced when i was three, but that wasn't hard, it was growing up with constantly hearing "your father is such a jerk - he never sends child support, he is nothing but trash, yada yada yada" and this from my sister and my mother. ugh - no wonder my distrust in men eh??? {{{sage}}}

kitti