Thanks guys...for your support and suggestions, it does mean alot to me.... Incidentally, I never say anything bad about her mom or anybody else around my daughter. I will look into the counsellor when I return from my trip to Toronto....sales meeting....youppi! D8's school is closed today...bad weather....she called me this morning to tell me. She was in a much better mood than yesterday. She will spend the day with a few kids and a babysitter...she sounded happy. I did speak to her mother last night (she called me). Apparently she was pissed that I questionned her parenting skills. I had calmed down by then and expressed myself with very little emotion... I think she understood my point of view. Anyhow need to get my stuff together for the meeting tommorow...