Beth Thought I would chime in over here. I wanted to give you a depressed persons side of things. I have had depression every since I was in grade school, and most recently diagnosed with bi-polar. As a depressed person I would not listen to anybody that wanted me to get help. I knew I had issues but didn't want to face them. "I can deal with this on my won","what is a psych doctor going to tell me I don't already know". When I was married to my first W I hit bottom., tried to overdose, luckly what I took was very hard to overdose on. Slept for three days straight though. That was the first time I got help, started med, no therapy. This helped me for a while. Not sure that I followed up on the med therapy like I should of to adjust dose. At that time I should have gone after counciling. My whole issue now is due to my bi-polar and depression, and not facing it head on when I knew I had a problem. My anger came out in the manic phase, like when I told MIL that I wanted to harm her, and when depressed would spend money and start fights with W. Now everybody is different when it comes to their depression. This is just how I was. Since the day W and I sep I have gotten the help I needed, meds, therapy, support group and even hypnotherapy. It took me to hit rock bottom, realize what I was loosing, to man up and get help. I still have a long way to go. I need to be trustworthy fro my W to trust me and feel safe with me. This seems to be her biggest issue when she says she doesn't know if she can love me again. I hope that your H will soon hit that point and see that you are a wonderful part of his life and woth getting help for. It will take him bottoming out to start the jounery upward. Something he must see himself. Just support him in loving ways, tough love. It never helped me to enable me with nice love, it took tough love to get me to start the change. thank you for your support. Happy Sat. lets all go out and do something for ourselves tonight.:) Byron