Life in the Rough - No Golf in Snow

[kelaaron]

Hope-I'm so sorry. She may be telling the truth, she may not. Her behavior says not. But either way, you are his W and do not have to explain yourself to her.

His behavior, honey, I just don't know. He is so lost. He has guilt. He did a horrible thing, especially knowing your past and to be honest, I understand the insecurity. I know you are strong and brave, and I know you will figure out what is the right way for YOU to handle this. Get through tomorrow. Enjoy your day. And worry about this later. I know Easier said than done.

[1hope]

Thanks Kel. My heart tells me that neither of them were telling me the exact truth. I felt it immediately when I saw the first bill.

When we was talking to me today he kept stressing certain words like He had not DONE anything with her, he had not TALKED to anyone in weeks etc. bla bla bla.

She told me today that they had played phone tag. That's pretty much a lie now that I think about it and looking at the call list. He did most of the calling to her. It was not tag by any means.

She probably does have a boyfriend. But I can tell that he was probably pursuing her and it probably didn't go further than that. And that my friend, hurts more than I can say.

I am going to calmy restate my boundry to him tonight if I get the chance. I don't know yet what my words will be, but I will not live with insecurity. If he can't make me feel secure in being his wife, I will work hard on making it not matter to me. It will be his loss.

[MT35]

Hope, wow...Kel where is that island again! or Orlando, this is unreal. Kel- Was there anything in the moons and stars that said, all Hell was going to break lose this week? For all of us? WOW, Hope, I am glad you at least talked to her and put yourself out there for her, with that many calls it just makes you wonder, I know you can't help that. I am praying for all of us. I just can't believe the way things have turned down this path so quickly.

Kel is right, tomorrow will have lots of family to enjoy and be with! Have a nice time!

Time to start on my pies for tomorrow and see if the bird is actually defrosted!

[kelaaron]

Only since you asked MT-you bet it has all been there. Pluto is changing signs tomorrow after 13 years. From Sag. to Capricorn. This is the final chance for letting go, facing fears, being totally honest with self and others as we enter a new era or rebirth. Pluto is the ruler of death, rebirth, and transformation. Was kinda hoping it would be a little calmer, but guess I was wrong. Sorry. New era, just have to see how it all unfolds. Believe it or not it is a positive time we are moving into. It is a global influence so it won't just be in our personal lives.

[MT35]

So what does it mean that Pluto was there for 13 years? Seems weird that for me or we H and I have been together for 15 years and it seems like most of the time we were together Pluto was in the same place. Now it is moving to Capricorn. What does that change mean, I guess is what I am getting at. Hopefully it will be good things for all aspects, economy, life and love too. Thanks Kel, was just wondering!

[1hope]

Well, that's the reason then. I actually wondered about it this morning after my drama. I was thinking about all of us, and wondered if it was the stars, or if by chance we were all feeding off ourselves? I know now it the not the latter.
These phone calls of his were just festering inside of me. He has started making continual accusations. When I am on the computer, getting cell calls, or going going shopping etc. he has to express doubt that I am really doing those things. Then he was so hurtful on Tuesday I couldn't let it go any longer. I had to get it out.

[Babygirl]

omg hope i am so sorry, i have been miserable and not here for you, please forgive me!! i am just gonna say it, but that whole deal is waving red flags at me big time.
i love you, wish WE could be together tomorrow!

[WCW]

Did the woman have any story to offer other than wanting hay? how many calls every month does it take to say yes or no? My H's ow had a million reasons she said she needed to contact H, she must have done them one at a time to rack up all that cell phone time starting at 5am before her H woke up and after 10pm when he went to bed and she hid in her bathroom to call my H month after month.

Well, that's the reason then. I actually wondered about it this morning after my drama. I was thinking about all of us, and wondered if it was the stars, or if by chance we were all feeding off ourselves? I know now it the not the latter.

Trying to say this lightly - don't rule out the latter. In my time on these boards I have seen it often where things will sway a direction. I do think it is how we relate to other sitchs while we live our own sitchs. It's hard to stick to your own life if everyone else is blowing up.

The holidays are a stressful time for so many reasons, and adding a bad M or a WAS to the mix can become unbearable. Stand tall and be strong, but understand the WAS is more messed up than the LBS. Honor yourself, don't be drug down to their level.

[1hope]

Thanks so much WC and BG. I really appreciate hearing from you. It has been a really tough day today, our admn assistant is leaving today, so there are tears everywhere. At lease I can kind of blend my red eyes it.

No, the woman did not say anything other than wanting hay or hoping to be able to work during hay season. She said that it wasn't anything like I was thinking and that she had a boyfriend that she was very happy with. What ever. She was very nice and warm to me on the phone. Almost kind. She was not defensive, rude or suspicious sounding.

Having had time to really again study both months worth of the calls, I can see where he made the first call to her. She returned it and they talked for 25 minutes. There were several other calls, all initiated by him. Most were for 1 minute, which is what it would take to connect and leave a message. The next longest call was for 7 minutes and it clearly looks like he was the one calling her. Never were the calls initiated by her. If anything, they were returned after he called first. Most were not returned.

Right now, he makes me sick. I know that he is in as much if not more pain than me, but I am the one wanting to throw up.

[Babygirl]

honey you are in pain, and let me do the throwing up for you ok? lets just hope our little group here is done with drama for a bit, it has come full circle i think!
hang in there namesake, i love you!