BeingMe, I thank you,it seems like you are the only one that can help me, I dont know what came over me, I guess deep down I still do care about the old ex and I can see that he is getting further and further into it with her, not only that but hearing her past records I fear for him and I honestly feel sorry for him, I dont want him thinking he can never contact me because of what he has done, maybe he wont do that until its over with her, but I am at a time in my life where as the father of my child and as a man I adored for all those years I could be his friend if he wanted, I think I will wait a while longer though, the feeling as subdued today, I had been painting yesterday it must of been the fumes, thanks for your replies BeingMe it is nice to have at least one reply