Pnt: One i talked with my c about that... their need to feel independent and no response or notification at all to their wife... I think that at time they realize that what we are asking is not for controlling them, but for consideration, they finally understand they are not controlled by us, they just share their life with us...!!.. we dont want to feel as a zero on the left that doesnt means anything to anybody... thats all... My h now can get out with a buddy, or go biking with a group... but now he feels no problem about telling me... hey, i have an invitation for biking... do you have plans with me...?!!... and thats all...!!... In men mind, the control word means a lot... we need to find the way to let them feel there is no control, only sharing and respect... consideration and fun.. andrea
