you sure we don't have the same wife?? Your post is like a mirror

Controlling to them= responsible in reality

I have gotten the kids are pawns speech

I have gotten the kids are miserable/to hard on them speech

You are doing well Obi Wan........

H 34
W 31
M 11yrs
D 11
D 9

6-1-08 I wanted to fix marriage
6-11-08 I found out about OM

7-16thru7-18 she tried didnt work!

8-17 home (just for kids until the end??)