everhope - just spent some time reading through your thread...we do seem to be in a similar spot - although my W and I have stopped having the R talks - although we do seem to relate well on a friends level.

T reckon we both know what needs to be done - but the everhope side of us wants to keep an unhelpful foot in the door so we don't miss a trick...

I think its time for a leap of faith - to lovingly detach and see what transpires. you, like I, will have to have lots of interactions with W - cos of children. The thing is, we won't be able to guilt or persuade our W's into coming back to us - they will only come back to us if they choose to - that means that they have to exercise free will...which ergo means that we have to stop looking for strings to pull...

i'm starting to get the hang of GALing...and staying as friendly with W is definitely paying off with S6 - i was very very worried about him but he seems to be dealing with things pretty well...although I'm well aware that things could be rumbling on under the surface...

The M1 gets no better!!! Remember Gardoms and Birchens??? Which is the one with the column???

best - GFI


Me: 40ish
W: 40ish
Together: 20 ish years
Married: 10ish Years