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#163123 07/25/03 05:48 PM
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Shiney,

I too have been losing hair at an alarming rate. I went to the health food store and got some bioten (it's supposed to help with that, we'll see). I believe it is stress related. I sure hope it grows back, if and when the stress slows down.

I take SamE in place of the hard meds for clinical depression. No side affects and it does seem to work, maybe not as intensely as what you are taking though. I was worse before I started taking it. Now I'm just situationally depressed.

My H is entirely to impatient to work through the side affects of the usual anti-dep., but who knows, maybe...

Thanks for being here, it means a lot to me.

Jeannine


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#163124 07/25/03 06:08 PM
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Hi poepad,

I agree that a quiet "thank you" is normally a good move.
I made sure to put my arms around him as well and I openly accepted his warmth. I believe he understood that he was doing a "good" thing. He was more tender toward me for the rest of the evening.

My H has a problem with my saying much of anything anymore, he is so easily set off. I think he expects me to be silent and stoic and basically leave him out of this mess.

But I do say "thank you" as often as possible, and will do so in the future.

Jeannine


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#163125 07/25/03 06:10 PM
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Pam,

Thanks for the hug. That you care is enough.

Jeannine


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#163126 07/25/03 06:12 PM
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Jeannine - I sent you HUGS, but on my thread - DUMB!

((((((((((HUGS))))))))))

Wish I could make it all better for you!


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Thanks CM

I was just over on your thread, got my hugs, and now I'm getting more here. How nice.

Jeannine


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Hey Jeanine,
Have you read Men, Women, and Relationships by John Gray? At first I scoffed at readng any of the John Gray stuff but I found that book to really make some sense of the way men and women communicate and some of the ways in which they clash because of it. Might be worth checking out if you haven't already.


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#163129 07/25/03 06:44 PM
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Hi rjd,

Actually, my H and I watched one of his video's years ago and it made a lot of sense to me.

I use to subscribe to his email column, but I'm not sure if he still does that. Something to check into, huh?

Hope you are getting along alright, I haven't had a chance to catch up on your situation of late.

Jeannine


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My H has a problem with my saying much of anything anymore, he is so easily set off. I think he expects me to be silent and stoic and basically leave him out of this mess. Jeannie, one thing women don't understand is, us men GRUNT are clueless most of the time. Unless you tell us, and lead us by the hand, you will keep getting the same results.
Assume he knows nothing, women assume we get it and don't care. We truly don't get it. And it takes a while of holding our hands till we do. Unless you tell him your love languages, he will not know.



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Jeannie, one thing women don't understand is, us men GRUNT are clueless most of the time. Unless you tell us, and lead us by the hand, you will keep getting the same results.
Assume he knows nothing, women assume we get it and don't care. We truly don't get it. And it takes a while of holding our hands till we do. Unless you tell him your love languages, he will not know.


Poe, you hit the nail right on the head here. It is almost as if we women need to think of men as being Rainmen (idiot savants) in the area of emotional insight and expression. If we realize that it is our job to take men by the hand and guide them through in this area, it help US not to have unrealistic expectations and then feel dissapointed when men behave cluelessly.

This is an area I have been thinking about a lot lately. My H actually has a great deal of emotional insight into himself (even more so now that he's in therapy). He's even making a great deal of progress into communicating with me about how he ticks (before he just wouldn't talk about what was going on inside).

My frustration is that he seems to know a lot about himself, but is clueless about others. If I don't explicitly explain my thoughts, emotions & needs, he will guess wrong about 75% of the time.

I have to change my perspective to lessen my frustration level. Instead of thinking that a man with so much insight into his own emotional world should be much more in tune with mine and be dissapointed when he behaves "clueless"....

I need to be more grateful that he's far ahead of many men in the area of emotional insight, is working hard on improving communication and expression of his own emotional world.

I need to remember, when I am feeling dissapointed that he isn't meeting my emotional needs or picking up on my clues, that he's not intentionally trying to hurt me, he's just CLUELESS.

I need to remember that if I leave blanks, he will fill them in wrong. I need to work on communicating my thoughts, emotions and needs in a clear and direct way.

Thanks Poe, for helping me consolidate my thoughts on something I've been stewing about.

Sorry to hijack, Jennine!


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Hi Jeannine, how are you doing?

Good stuff there Tal....I feel similarly. My H claims to be sensitive etc. and at times he can be. But he seems to jump to wrong conclusions about my moods/needs etc. a fair amount of the time, too.

I guess we DO just have to be more explicit about it all.

No, haven't forgotten whose thread I'm on: ((((((((J)))))))

Shiny

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