It really pisses me off to hear some of these lines...amazing how they are so similar. Are they trying to feel less guilty by saying stuff like you deserve something better and or i want to stop hurting you.....what a crock of sh!t. During one of my more memorable exchanges (which are not recommended in the DR book) whne W gave me one of those lines, I answered perhaps you should have thought of that before you dropped your panties and spread your legs(I apologize for being so graphic). The coach is right get your ducks in a row and protect yourself. Personally, I have absolutelly no intention to co-sign anything with W especially after the divorce. Living in the same house will be extremely difficult under these circumstances...interesting that his mom does not even want him..I think that speaks volumes.