My Daughter in law. But i think the same rule applies. I am thinking the same thing. This willbe my first anti-doormat action. I know it would be "nice of me", but she knew last week when she spoke with me and mentioned my daughters b'day. Seems to me she shoudl have put money aside for both of them for a card or gift or whatever. I am giving them both cards with money from "Dad". and I'll write something nice for each as I always do. I just didn't feel right, and I don't want to look like a pri@# or anything. But the truth is, why should I, I feel the same, if she is single in her mind, then single she is, there is no us right now. thanks Amy, how have you been?