Guys,

I just quickly looked there. Couldn't see Bear, but I'm pleased to say MrPathetic is now there, being dunked in ice-cold water!

S&A


"A man can be destroyed but not defeated" - from The Old Man and the Sea, by Ernest Hemingway.

Which I take to mean that every man has within him a spirit of relentlessness and optimism. Its already there; he just has to cultivate it.