I do like the ideas Kat & everyone came up with. We should have more fun with DBing sometimes, and that sounds like fun. My ? is doesn't his leaving it there (we all know that was planned) show that OM is not confident? I mean couldn't that be considered a good sign. And yes, it was disrespectful of OM but when do they ever have respect for marriage and family? Your W should take him to task for that, but maybe she doesn't realize how disrespectful that is? Karen