I agree with Puppy and WDID. It makes me sick that she is talking like that. Do they not have a clue they are hurting their children or do they just not care???

I agree if you get in that sitch you need to be assertive and bring out the truth as they were suggesting. Yes, your kids need the truth. It upsets me how your W says some day you'll understand like it's lack of maturity on your kids' part. Truthfully, I don't understand it and I'm now 44 you know! Plus, your kids are very smart obviously. Grrrrr.

I think the best thing you need to do now is LRT & as much honest communication with your kids as possible. If you had been LRT'ing or GALing then that wouldn't have happened. I think your W is messed up. And when you do occasionally see her, yes, stop letting her get away with that kind of spew! I know you worry about your kids, but honest communication should not be a problem. If you W has a fit over that, you should ask her to stop and if she doesn't then just leave.

I don't know about counseling, but I do wonder if family counseling, the C seeing your whole family might help. Maybe an impartial C could help your wife realize some of what's going on or something. The kids and I are going to do that next week do a family therapy session, bring up issues and stuff and I think it'll be good. Karen


Me 53
D18, S24