"I just had to point out that she had already been the cause of a much bigger disruption in their lives by having them now live in 2 different homes." Imagine how not too long ago some of us would be listening, validating and then listening some more ;-) The school C told me that in my house the kids follow my rules (or lack thereof). Why do you even let W into your house now? It's inviting Trouble in my opinion. G39.9999 turned G40 ... I guess that stops the clock? She's now G40.001 on the number line?