Yes..I know stubborn..I know it well. I can offer this up to you..I mean, if I can change then he can change. He seems to be doing it slowly. Sometimes we are really slow and change over time kicking and dragging our feet along the way..not to offend or make light of him/you or what he has done..I can see how he is, I know how he is. We both are a lot alike..I feel I've changed for the better. I can see where he is coming from in a way..there are big differences..I never cheated. I have never cheated with anyone..I was always with one woman at a time..I dated one at a time and moved on..I can empathize with him and his demons..ie the stubborn, uneasiness he has, the ways he is and responds..I don't condone what he has done...but can maybe see how his brain works..does that make sense at all??