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frank_D #1608624 09/30/08 08:24 PM
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She has the "I'm free and independent" mindset.

Yea, free and independent. Just like a teen.

With frank paying the bills. With frank taking care of business. With frank letting her come in each morning to be mom. With frank offering flexibiliy where the kids are concerned. With frank giving her time rather than pressing for D, implying a safety net she can "come home" to.

Yes, a great life without responsibility.

I wish I could be there to see the reality on her face when reality hits. And it will. How she is living and behaving now will be a memory once she really is alone.

Keep going frank. Can I offer a word of caution? "With frank doing..." as I wrote above, there is a fine line before you cross over into enabling behavior on your part or her taking advantage of the situation at your expense.


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Originally Posted By: Jeff223
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She has the "I'm free and independent" mindset.

Yea, free and independent. Just like a teen.

With frank paying the bills. With frank taking care of business. With frank letting her come in each morning to be mom. With frank offering flexibiliy where the kids are concerned. With frank giving her time rather than pressing for D, implying a safety net she can "come home" to.

Yes, a great life without responsibility.
Yeah, it sucks this is the way it is but I do it for the girls sake, not hers.

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I wish I could be there to see the reality on her face when reality hits. And it will. How she is living and behaving now will be a memory once she really is alone.
She'll never be 'alone'. She seems to be able to find an OM so she doesn't have to actually BE alone. However, she will be financially alone at some point.

Or, she will find that most of the men she meets are incomplete.

Or she will be happy with someone simpler.
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Keep going frank. Can I offer a word of caution? "With frank doing..." as I wrote above, there is a fine line before you cross over into enabling behavior on your part or her taking advantage of the situation at your expense.


Agreed. I don't give her anything more than I have to to keep the girls happy.


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frank_D #1608738 09/30/08 09:58 PM
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I just got a call from an Uncle that my dad died. We weren't really
close but it still sucks.

I sent an e-mail to W letting her know.

My mail:
My dad died. D17 knows. Thought I should tell you.

Her reply:
Frank
I am so sorry. If there anything I can do for you please let me know.

She is currently here, in her room, on her computer, reading and replying to this e-mail.

Yes, she cares so much.

One thing I'm learning today from this is you need to make your life count for something. My dad didn't really do that. He gave up.


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frank_D #1608770 09/30/08 10:24 PM
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Frank, I am so sorry to hear of your fathers passing. My heart goes out to you.

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[censored] Frank

so sorry man

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Just following up. I went into the house and saw W as she was leaving. She did stop and say she was sorry. I was angry and told her I don't want to talk about this, it's none of her business.

I guess I hurt her and made her a little angry. I realized that I shouldn't have said that so I apologized for being angry, but I just didn't want to talk about it.

She really wasn't that hurt. I can see the lack of feelings for me and the lack of real empathy. She really has distanced herself from me. at least she's spending more time with the girls.

We talked about a few things related to the girls and the house. she tried to be pleasant but she was uncomfortable. so was I.

at least the animosity is gone.


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The biggest thing is not being able to ever have some resolution to some issues we had. He wasn't a bad man. He just didn't really know how to deal with some of the things life sends you.

I never fit in with my family. I was always different. I was hoping I could make a family that would last but it didn't. Pretty much because I picked the wrong partner and didn't take care of myself.

I'm determined to do better.


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Sorry to hear of your loss Frank. Even though you were not close, the passing of your Father is still a significant part of your life. You may not realize it on the surface, but those feelings may creep up in different ways, like you just mentioned. Recognize them for what they are and work through them.

Will keep you and your family members in prayers.

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(((((((((((Frank))))))))))))))


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Frank, I am so sorry to hear about your dad! Please know that you are in our thoughts and prayers!


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