not sure if you're still thinking through issue with friend, but here's my $.02.
You talk about them being defensive and how that makes you feel, but defensiveness isn't about you, it's about them. And it means they won't listen no matter what you say, until they're ready to listen. Most times it takes some kind of trigger of awareness for them, something they encounter in another context or a small, digestible thing you say, that opens them up to hear the rest of it.
Guess I'm saying, don't roll in with the 101st airborne division of reason, but think about how to make smaller steps towards the bigger discussion making sure there are plenty of opportunities to judge whether they are listening or shutting down. Sometimes it takes a while. And it also gives you the chance to hear them as well - something we often don't do when we're absolutely sure of our own opinions.
i am going to start writing stuff down and lodo...you are correct...it's hard to be objective when you are close to the subject matter
and
i was listening to some music today and
the kids and i were singing this song at the top of our lungs and i realized that it is kind of an anthemn for all of us There are places I remember all my life, Though some have changed Some forever, not for better Some have gone and some remain. All these places have their moments Of lovers and friends I still can recall Some are dead and some are living In my life I loved them all.
And with all these friends and lovers There is no one compares with you And these mem'ries lose their meaning When I think of love as something new And I know I'll never lose affection For people and things that went before I know I'll often stop and think about them. In my life I loved you more.
And I know I'll never lose affection For people and things that went before I know I'll often stop and think about them. In my life I loved you more In my life I loved you more
and because it is one of my favorite love songs There are places I remember all my life, Though some have changed Some forever, not for better Some have gone and some remain. All these places have their moments Of lovers and friends I still can recall Some are dead and some are living In my life I loved them all.
And with all these friends and lovers There is no one compares with you And these mem'ries lose their meaning When I think of love as something new And I know I'll never lose affection For people and things that went before I know I'll often stop and think about them. In my life I loved you more.
And I know I'll never lose affection For people and things that went before I know I'll often stop and think about them. In my life I loved you more In my life I loved you more
and because i like this one too
Let's go down, together 3 AM tomorrow night I'll take you over anything Let's go out, together Broad daylight in the street I'll take you anywhere
Chorus: Your music fills my car Your voice breaks every time I'm still wondering If I know who you are I hang on every line
Let's go down, together Down by the old mainstream I'll take you over anything Let's go back in time 1959 I'll take you, Radio King
Figgy, Just stumbling through the neighborhood of threadom with bleary eyes and nostrils awakened by hefty "bean steam".
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Guess I'm saying, don't roll in with the 101st airborne division of reason
Sorry, Figgy but I have to ask where I can contact this airborne division. I didn't even realize they existed and I could really use their help! Fodo, do tell. I went to 2 shows this weekend since you were referencing music. Friday, saw the Stereophonics right near my house for those old late 80"s cheap door prices and they didn't let me down! Then on saturday saw Augustana, Maroon 5 and the Counting Crows. A good show being the strange lineup. It caused huge swells of disapproval in my homestead being back to back moments but I had to see Stereophonics and the Counting Crows...Anyway, I am babbling. I left a temperate cup of Cyber Bean steam to jostle you for the upcoming week...peace
